Animal And Company: RE: [boxer lovers] "breeder" problem, next level

It is always good to keep a close eye on the babies, furry or otherwise. Remembering that water actually makes a sunburn worse as the water magnifies the rays and slows down the light, allowing the radiation to spend more time on the skin.

For anyone who has a white or a dog with white places or your own skin, one of the best things to treat a sunburn, on an immediate basis is vinegar. Keeping it repeatedly applied. Vinegar stops the malliard reaction (which is the reaction that turns your steak brown and yummy) it is also the reaction which is similarly cooking you or your pet's flesh. Putting vinegar on a burn, repeatedly to continue to counter the radiation, can prevent a burn from becoming worse. A sunburn continues to radiate inward and damage skin deeper even after you are out of the sun.

For my new little white puppy, it will be indoors most of the time and I'm going to try to teach him to wear lightweight shirts and hats to shade his eyes. He'll be the coolest cat on a leash!! Can't you just see it? a straw gentleman's hat, a Hawaiian Shirt and maybe even some shades. That will impress the girls, even after he has nothing to offer them!!!

He comes home in 2 weeks and his name is Mischief.

Karon Adams

Hestia's Handmaiden

Cooking is a Sacred Endeavour

From: boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 9:53 PM
To: boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [boxer lovers] "breeder" problem, next level

It isn't that 'they are supposed to have' certain problems that don't face the fawns or brindles"

It is that they are more prone to deafness; and more sensitive to weather extremes particularly to the sun - they can burn quickly and easily; they can suffer sun-stroke and heat exhaustion - easier than the fawn and/or brindle, and oft times new owners (I hate that word!) are not warned to take necessary precautions.

I worked for a vet in my younger days and thankfully nowadays people are much more aware of the issues their pets can suffer from. But we saw 'most of it" in the whites - some were deaf - but not a huge percentage; skin cancer at that time was more prevalent and worrisome and educating people to take similar precautions that they would with a young child in the bright sun. Lotion that is safe on a dog; cover up; but mainly it is best to eave them indoors during the bright part of the day and do your walking and such in the cool of the early morning or evening - the same as you would for yourself.

Great caution should be taken when playing near the water of course - like throwing the ball into the lake time and again with doggie-friend racing around in the SUN - and only thinking to yourself that he is cooling down in the water - but wait a minute! is his skin burning!!

I guess I am a bit anal at just wanting to remind people of the care needed.

"Cats are not my whole life . . . But they make my life whole! "

On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 5:20 PM, TOM G BELT cbeltljsre@verizon.net [boxerlovers] <boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Had a white boxer, she had no problems they are supposed to have and she even liked laying in the sun. Wasn't deaf, an all around good dog and she was a rescue. Since we didnt know her exact age we had to guess but she lived at least 12 years. Awesome dog!

Christine Belt

On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 6:09 AM, "Lisa Wiser lawiser@att.net [boxerlovers]" <boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Actually, one of the major foundation (German) dogs in Boxer history (20s-30s) was a white Boxer. AKC allowed white boxers to be registered, it was the ABC (American Boxer Club) that banned them, and for the longest time, white Boxers were to just be left behind at the vets at the 3 day check, dew claw and tail snips. Luckily at that time, none of my 2 litters I bred had any whites.

Thankfully, that rule has been changed, but with an absolute no breeding registration given with them and the breeder is only to charge "costs" for a white. And while some are deaf, not all are and any long time Boxer owner (like Karon is) can easily handle the restrictions on boxers and weather.

LisaW

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From: Jeanne purrfectlyexotic@gmail.com [boxerlovers]

Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2016 9:35 PM

To: boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com

Reply To: boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [boxer lovers] "breeder" problem, next level

Is it a white Boxer you are looking at?? I wouldn't recommend that.
White is not even a recognized colour in the Boxer breed; white is super
sensitive to weather - they sun burn easily; they cannot tolerate the cold;
the are prone to skin cancer, and they often become, or already are, deaf!
I know I will get slammed by 'white' breeders, but at the same time, they
cannot deny what I say is true.
It can end up being a very costly venture.
There are lots of reputable breeders of fawns (of varying shades!) and
Brindles - of varying patterns and shades,
I urge you to put aside your longing for a puppy and take a bit more time
rather than jumping in because you are so hurt.
I would also report her to the local police and take her to Small Claim
Court and request not only your money back but your costs, and some
compensation for other expenses and for your emotional distress.
Whatever you decide, I wish you the very best of luck.
Let 'us' know how things turn out for you!
Jeanne and lorne
WildThyme Boxers (1980) Ltd.
American and Canadian and some Euro way back
Breeding the beautiful Plain Fawn - a rich red mahogany coat, solid black
mask, white boots and chest; large expressive eyes; and the best
temperament to be found (according to our veterinarians!)
We have Top Champions in our lines, but we are focussing on breeding the
perfect family member more so than show lines.

- *"Cats are not my whole life . . . But they make my life whole! "*

On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 1:30 PM, 'karon' karon@karonadams.com [boxerlovers] <
boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

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> *For those who were interested, I wanted to update my "Breeder" issue.*
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> *I'm STILL out $850.*
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> *This "Breeder" is also a show handler. So, if she has your dog and
> anything happens, she'll probably still demand payment for all the usual
> handling expenses, no matter what happened to the dog.*
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> *I should have had a new puppy a week ago. Instead, I am sending in an
> internet fraud report to the FBI. This makes me cry every time I think of
> it.*
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> *Whenever she has decided to speak to me, all she has said is, SHE had
> bills to pay, which is why she is keeping my money. never mind how many
> meals I skipped to save up enough for a puppy. Never mind what bills I have
> to pay, never mind that I am now going to be paying twice for a puppy. *
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> *(I do have another puppy I should be bringing home in two weeks. A
> beautiful little White who's breeder knows what happened and is willing to
> let me make payments instead of paying up front.) So, now, after spending a
> year putting by $10 or $20 where I could, I'll be spending the next year
> taking out $100 regularly to pay for my new buddy. It isn't that I bemoan
> the price of a great pup, but I DO resent her cavalier attitude that her
> bills are more important than mine. Worse, that her bills are more
> important than simple ethics.*
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> *If any of you are in the show ring and hiring handlers, feel free to
> contact me and I'll give you this woman's name. she is a fairly well known
> handler from what I hear and shows quite a few dogs. I'm sure there are
> other owners out there who probably wish they had been warned ahead of
> time. I know I wish I had known what her level of honesty and ethics were
> before I even said hello.*
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> *So, now, I have another puppy who will join our household, soon, and I
> won't be doing much travel and any extra cash goes into the puppy payment
> jar. I have contact the FBI and my attorney regarding a civil suit as well.
> I suppose she is unaware that a civil judgment could result in a much
> larger loss of cash and a lien on everything she owns as well as her mother
> (since her mother is also an owner on the dogs and the handling business)
> but, considering her ethics, I can just tell her I have bills to pay and
> need the money.*
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> *On the up side, new little boy coming to our house, and I'm shopping for
> a name, the original name I had chosen just doesn't feel right. And, it's
> Spring!!! The seeds are going in the ground, the Daffodils are already
> blooming. The Hummingbirds will be here soon and much is going well.*
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> *OH! And my broken back is improving. *
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> *See you all in the funny papers!!*
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> *Karon Adams*
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> *Hestia's Handmaiden*
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> *Cooking is a Sacred Endeavour*
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