"Cats are not my whole life . . . But they make my life whole! "
FYI. AKC will not get involved unless the party is an AKC registered KENNEL name (not just registered litters but the actual KENNEL Name). Same with the handler part. Unless the breeder is a registered handler, AKC doesn't get involved. I don't know about CKC. The (American Boxer Club) doesn't get involved unless the breeder is a member of the ABC.Sent from Beau ... my BlackBerry Z10.
"It is important to note a few things here. One is that, like brindling, the marking pattern is affected by modifiers, so that a flashy Boxers, while genetically the same as another flashy Boxer, will not be phenotypically the same - one may have a full white collar, the other may only have white "stockings" and no white on the neck. Also, genetically plain Boxers do have a minimal amount of white markings on the toes, chest and belly. Because of the modifiers, a genetically flashy Boxer that is modified to have only a small amount of white markings may look phenotypically identical to a genetically plain Boxer. Finally, because white is a marking pattern and not a coat color, a white Boxer is always either fawn or brindle. If the white covers the entire body, you may never know which color it is (unless it happened to come from two fawn parents)."
Two Solid Color Genes
(SS)
Two White Markings Genes
(SwSw)
One of Each Gene
(SSw)(from an article I have on Boxer colours and genetics) thot it may be of interest.!)
I read your note about her keeping your money as she has bills to pay!! THAT statement will kill her dead in court or court action. You can do this without a lawyer - you know that I hope.
Also let AKC and CKC know of her unethical behaviour!
You go girl!!! Let 'us' know as things go forward and if you need support, I am here for you as I know anyone such as Chris - reading this, will be at your side as well.
p.s. We take $200 deposit. No more than that even if they want to leave more. One never knows. and the deposit is basically that the breeder is HOLDING one of the pups, so it is to help insure you will take the pup when it is ready and not go looking elsewhere because you suddenly see one that is ready to go now. May I ask what the full price of her pups is??
Hi, yes, I know the problems that come with whites. But another show breeder I know had a white in her litter. I told her I'd take him so long as his health was good. Eyes, ears, that sort of thing. I know they are DQd. But I'm not planning to show. I made that clear when I started shopping for a new baby. This little guy is a beautifully built little guy. If he had proper colouring, he'd likely rule the ring.
But, since I'm not going to the ring, and this guy needs a home, it works out well for use both. His sun sensitivity will be a minimal problem as they will be indoors most of the time, with me. We're looking to teach him to wear hats, sunglasses and shirts as well as his sunscreen. Ah, yes, we will be very careful of his skin.
But, I am NOT a part of fan of supporter of the breeding of "Rare White" ANYTHING! Those backyard breeders are beneath contempt.
Karon Adams
Hestia's Handmaiden
Cooking is a Sacred Endeavour
From: boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 9:00 PM
To: boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [boxer lovers] "breeder" problem, next level
Is it a white Boxer you are looking at?? I wouldn't recommend that.
White is not even a recognized colour in the Boxer breed; white is super
sensitive to weather - they sun burn easily; they cannot tolerate the cold;
the are prone to skin cancer, and they often become, or already are, deaf!
I know I will get slammed by 'white' breeders, but at the same time, they
cannot deny what I say is true.
It can end up being a very costly venture.
There are lots of reputable breeders of fawns (of varying shades!) and
Brindles - of varying patterns and shades,
I urge you to put aside your longing for a puppy and take a bit more time
rather than jumping in because you are so hurt.
I would also report her to the local police and take her to Small Claim
Court and request not only your money back but your costs, and some
compensation for other expenses and for your emotional distress.
Whatever you decide, I wish you the very best of luck.
Let 'us' know how things turn out for you!
Jeanne and lorne
WildThyme Boxers (1980) Ltd.
American and Canadian and some Euro way back
Breeding the beautiful Plain Fawn - a rich red mahogany coat, solid black
mask, white boots and chest; large expressive eyes; and the best
temperament to be found (according to our veterinarians!)
We have Top Champions in our lines, but we are focussing on breeding the
perfect family member more so than show lines.
- *"Cats are not my whole life . . . But they make my life whole! "*
On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 1:30 PM, 'karon' karon@karonadams.com [boxerlovers] <
boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> *For those who were interested, I wanted to update my "Breeder" issue.*
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> *I'm STILL out $850.*
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> *This "Breeder" is also a show handler. So, if she has your dog and
> anything happens, she'll probably still demand payment for all the usual
> handling expenses, no matter what happened to the dog.*
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> *I should have had a new puppy a week ago. Instead, I am sending in an
> internet fraud report to the FBI. This makes me cry every time I think of
> it.*
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> *Whenever she has decided to speak to me, all she has said is, SHE had
> bills to pay, which is why she is keeping my money. never mind how many
> meals I skipped to save up enough for a puppy. Never mind what bills I have
> to pay, never mind that I am now going to be paying twice for a puppy. *
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> *(I do have another puppy I should be bringing home in two weeks. A
> beautiful little White who's breeder knows what happened and is willing to
> let me make payments instead of paying up front.) So, now, after spending a
> year putting by $10 or $20 where I could, I'll be spending the next year
> taking out $100 regularly to pay for my new buddy. It isn't that I bemoan
> the price of a great pup, but I DO resent her cavalier attitude that her
> bills are more important than mine. Worse, that her bills are more
> important than simple ethics.*
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> *If any of you are in the show ring and hiring handlers, feel free to
> contact me and I'll give you this woman's name. she is a fairly well known
> handler from what I hear and shows quite a few dogs. I'm sure there are
> other owners out there who probably wish they had been warned ahead of
> time. I know I wish I had known what her level of honesty and ethics were
> before I even said hello.*
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>
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> *So, now, I have another puppy who will join our household, soon, and I
> won't be doing much travel and any extra cash goes into the puppy payment
> jar. I have contact the FBI and my attorney regarding a civil suit as well.
> I suppose she is unaware that a civil judgment could result in a much
> larger loss of cash and a lien on everything she owns as well as her mother
> (since her mother is also an owner on the dogs and the handling business)
> but, considering her ethics, I can just tell her I have bills to pay and
> need the money.*
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>
>
> *On the up side, new little boy coming to our house, and I'm shopping for
> a name, the original name I had chosen just doesn't feel right. And, it's
> Spring!!! The seeds are going in the ground, the Daffodils are already
> blooming. The Hummingbirds will be here soon and much is going well.*
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> *OH! And my broken back is improving. *
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> *See you all in the funny papers!!*
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> *Karon Adams*
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> *Hestia's Handmaiden*
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> *Cooking is a Sacred Endeavour*
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