Animal And Company: RE: [boxer lovers] puppies

THANK YOU! I feel better. And, yes, puppy buyers do catch a LOT of grief!
And, often, that is why they go to the paper. No one gives them good info
and they start with "Buying a puppy is the same thing as killing a dog". It
is amazing how many people will actually SAY that.

I have worked in rescue, my family has and does have rescue dogs. If I add
to my dog family, it will be a pet dog from a show breeder. I don't have the
financial ability to deal with major health problems and, frankly, I have
had several rescue dogs who have had them and watching the succumb to those
problems, after relatively short lives is heartbreaking. I just cannot deal
with that again. That is ME.

I do hate when puppy buyers are attacked. I would much peer to educate them.
we need to encourage our good breeders and support them. the goal is to
rescue the dogs in need and encourage those who are improving the breed.
hopefully, those TWO approaches will result in fewer badly bred dogs and
more better bred dogs. I am not naïve enough to think that will happen fast
but that IS the goal

The idea that everyone should only adopt rescue means all the boxers being
adopted are spayed and neutered and that, too means no good breeders. I much
prefer education.

Karon Adams

Accredited Jewelry Professional (GIA)

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From: boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of slidinspots
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 3:47 PM
To: boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [boxer lovers] puppies

Karon thank you for a great post! There is so much push to get a rescue that
those who do buy a puppy from a reputable breeder are mentally attacked! I
talked to 2 different people this weekend who wanted puppies(of different
breeds, neither Boxer) and I listened to the crap they have been putting up
with from others about it because they were not considering a rescue. There
is nothing wrong with wanting/buying a puppy from a reputable breeder
instead of getting a rescue! Also if someone does want something older than
a puppy, a breeder is still a good source as a good breeder rescues their
own puppies! I got my standard Poodle from a breeder, she had gotten him
back when they had to unexpectally move overseas. I have this dogs entire
history.

Patti

--- In boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:boxerlovers%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"karon" <karon@...> wrote:
>
> If you are looking for a puppy and plan to purchase, please go through the
> ABC and make certain you are purchasing from a reputable breeder. While I
do
> endorse rescues, sometimes, with children, that is not the best choice. If
> thinking about a puppy, go to the ABC website and fill out the puppy
> application form. Member breeders with pups on the ground or who are
> planning a breeding or pregnant, will receive your application and you'll
> find that several will contact you. that is a good thing.
>
>
>
> When you heard from the breeders, many will have already checked your
> references. THAT is a good thing. Several breeders who contacted me had
even
> called my vet to check my record caring for animals I already had. I was
> very pleased with that. The questions you need to ask, besides information
> on the pedigree, are what health tests have been done and can you be sent
> copies of the health reports. The breeders WANT you to ask these
questions.
> It shows you are being responsible.
>
>
>
> Spend some time on the ABC page (American Boxer Club) and learn what the
> issues are with Boxers so you can ask good questions and be comfortable
with
> the answers. Even if I was considering a pet puppy, I would still prefer a
> breeding from show stock. The reason is, and many people don't know this,
> but dog shows are not beauty pageants, though looks are important. The
point
> of dog shows is to evaluate breeding stock. If your breeder is breeding
> from dogs proven in the ring and bringing good health to the table, you
will
> likely have a good chance t a well tempered, healthy pup.
>
>
>
> That being said, there are NEVER guarantees. Even the best breeding can
> through pups with problems. It happens. But, your chances are much better
if
> you start with good stock. Almost all litters are mostly going to be pets.
> In a great breeding, often there are some pups who will go on to the ring
> and some who, still wonderful dogs, are just a little bit missing the
mark.
> These are the pet dogs and that is wonderful. Your breeder will probably
> sell that pup with a spay or neuter requirement.
>
>
>
> Most will insist they co-own the pup until you send them the vet statement
> that the surgery was performed. Again, this is a responsible breeder. Not
> all do that but many ethical breeders do so. the purpose is to make
certain
> that their pet pups, excellent dogs and certainly a serious cut above the
> average backyard dog, is never introduced to the breeding stream. The
reason
> they are not going into the ring is because they probably are not quite
the
> best choice for breeding.
>
>
>
> If you choose a white pup, be certain you are aware what challenges that
> presents. Some are perfectly ordinary dogs other than color. However, the
> color does mean they are likely, more sensitive to sun. yes, white boxer
can
> sunburn<G> There are also, many deaf pups in the whites. A deaf pup is a
> little more of a challenge but, remember, a LOT of the training you do
with
> your dog is through body language and physical signals, anyway. And a deaf
> pup tends to be pretty easy to train simply because they pay closer
> attention to you than a hearing pup who is distracted by sound. My mother
> adopted a deaf white several years ago. When she heard about him, she
didn't
> think she could manage it. I told her it would not be as difficult as she
> thought it was. She LOVES her Deaf boxer and if you didn't know he was
deaf,
> you could not tell. He is a joy. She has already said if she is up to
> adopting, again, she will give preference to a deaf boxer.
>
>
>
> I know this is a lot of information and I apologize for that. but,
bringing
> a pup into the family is a big deal and a long term commitment. Having
spent
> a little time in the show world and a moderate amount of time in rescue, I
> am very passionate about responsible breeding. I want to support
responsible
> breeders and educate potential new puppy owners what they need to know to
> buy or adopt in the most responsible manner and end up with a happy
addition
> to the family. The last thing I ever want to see is a pup that ends up
back
> in rescue. I really feel the best way to avoid that is to make good
> decisions at this point.
>
>
>
> Good luck! I hope this is helpful and not too overwhelming. Please let us
> know how the process goes. There are always people here to help.
>
>
>
> Karon Adams
>
> Accredited Jewelry Professional (GIA)
>
> You can send a Rosary to a soldier!
>
> www.facebook.com/MilitaryRosary
>
> www.YellowRibbonRosaries.com
>
>
>
> From: boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:boxerlovers%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:boxerlovers%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On
> Behalf Of Renee & Rick
> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 5:10 PM
> To: boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:boxerlovers%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [boxer lovers] puppies
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>
>
>
> Wanda,
>
> Try a rescue I know Adopt a Boxer has puppies from time to time and some
of
> the others have puppies now. Please try to save a life not continue the
> cycle of puppy mills and backyard breeders. That's how I got my youngest
and
> he's now 2 but he was only 12 weeks when we got him through rescue.
>
> Renee
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Wanda
> To: boxerlovers
> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 2:22 AM
> Subject: [boxer lovers] puppies
>
> My daughter is looking for a puppy. Is there anyone in the group that
knows
> of any puppies now or in the near future. It will not be for show just a
> pet. Preferably we would like to find a puppy in the Western Pensylvania
> area or in Virginia. Thanks.
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