Tammy, I would love to see your dog but you will have to send me the pic to my email address...We are not able to post pics on this list...if for the group there are the albums at the group page...
Just send it to annettehake@yahoo.com
thanks,Annette
Alan and Annette Hake
and the animals we love,
on Menookhaw Mountain
Ravenden, Arkansas
--- On Thu, 6/30/11, Annette Hake <annettehake@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Annette Hake <annettehake@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [boxer lovers] New Member getting a boxer- need your thoughts
To: boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, June 30, 2011, 11:10 AM
Tammy,
If she can find another alternative it would be best in my opinion...
Good Luck,
Annette
Alan and Annette Hake
and the animals we love,
on Menookhaw Mountain
Ravenden, Arkansas
--- On Wed, 6/29/11, Tammy Zurak <tammylzurak@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Tammy Zurak <tammylzurak@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [boxer lovers] New Member getting a boxer- need your thoughts
To: boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 29, 2011, 5:50 PM
Hi Annette,
Thanks for responding. My Pyrs are house dogs, no livestock to guard- just us.
Actually, one is half Pyr, half Anatolian Shepherd- attached a photo for you to
see. My husband told me today now the Boxer (Buster) might not be coming, his
ex lives in Cancun and is having a hard time figuring out shipping. Most of the
airlines won't take the short nosed dogs when it is 75 degrees or hotter on
either end (which I guess you all likely knew) but she thought she had another
option but now not so sure. It's been 95 every day here for weeks.
I was hoping the fact he was a still a puppy might bode well for him, that they
would be more willing to teach him versus fight him. Willow loves dogs and
really likes to play but Riley prefers to watch so I was thinking a high energy
Boxer might be a good match for her and take the pressure off Riley. I can also
see though that there could be jealousy since my two are a bonded pair.
Love to hear what others think too, thanks!
Tammy in TN
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From: Annette Hake <annettehake@yahoo.com>
To: boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, June 29, 2011 10:28:37 AM
Subject: Re: [boxer lovers] New Member getting a boxer- need your thoughts
WOW!!! Tammy.... you are asking for advise so here it is.....
I had a similar situation... I have a female Great Pyrenees and an male
Antolian Shepherd out in the goat pen with the goats.... at the time there were
no goats in the pen with them because we had sold them....and the LGDs were in
one of the pens...
I bought a male Boxer to breed with my female boxer but he was use to being
outside so I put him in the pen (formally for goats) next to the two
LGDS...everything was fine for a while and then one day... OUT OF NOWHERE... the
two Pyrenees and the Boxer were going at each other through the fence
gate..between the two pens..... I was really worried that it was a "to the death
fight" and probably would have been if they had been in the same area....I
could not call them off..The female was spayed but the two males were
intact...not sure if that was the problem or
not...but the female LGD was just as ready to fight as the male LGD and the
Boxer was ready to take them both on...it was scary...so I got the boxer out of
that pen and put him on a run in the front yard and all is fine now...they can
see each other at times but it is not like they are within fighting distance of
each other...and I am transitioning the male boxer to being in the house with my
two female boxers...
The boxer ( Marcus) was 8 mo. old when I brought him home... My LSDs are Male-
92 lbs and female similar weight...Boxer is about 72 lbs now at 4 years old ..
not sure what he was at 8 mo. I am guessing about 50 lbs...
Even though that I brought Marcus into the LGDs territory ......they had had run
of both pens when we had the goats....the pens are big ...lots of space to get
away from each other...
I did not expect that to happen because it seemed like they were getting along
fine for several months...then one day....apparently one challenged the other
and that
was that...I could not get them anywhere close to each other again...they did
not forget the death threats to each other...
Bringing them into your home may not be a good idea...IMO
History behind the LGDs:P
We got two brother LGDs (Anatolian Shepherds) to start with and a year later got
2 Great Pyrenees sisters to breed with the males...at that time of this
situation, we only had one male and one female LGD... but when the brothers
were growing up together they were together in the pen and all was good...they
guarded the live stock together and played together but once we separated them
and gave them each a female...they never were able to be in adjacent pens again
because they wanted to fight each other...and were very protective of their
goats and their females...
You have a male and female and the male will probably want to protect your
female from the incoming strange male...that may have been
what happened here too...unless him being a puppy will make a difference...not
sure but it is not a good idea in my experience...Both LGDs are very loving to
us and obedient but when they got in the fight mode.. They would not call off
and neither would the boxer...I had to pull him away from the gate with a leash
and it was hard to get him away from there... I can't imagine what it would have
been if they were all in the same space together.
LGDs and boxers are both territorial dogs and protectors of what they deam as
theirs...so you may be asking for more than you can handle bringing the boxer
into that situation...
At first the Boxer will probably be out of his territory so he will be less
likely to want to fight.. but as he gets comfortable with his surrounding he may
try to make a move towards the female or challenge the bigger dogs and that
could get ugly...I think that is what happened with mine...
I would not do it but you have to decide that for yourself ...
Sorry may not be what you wanted to hear but could avoid a dangerous situation
in your home....
Annette
Marcus, Maggie and BooSahrah and Meloch
Alan and Annette Hake
and the animals we love,
on Menookhaw Mountain
Ravenden, Arkansas
--- On Wed, 6/29/11, tammylzurak <tammylzurak@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: tammylzurak <tammylzurak@yahoo.com>
Subject: [boxer lovers] New Member getting a boxer- need your thoughts
To: boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 29, 2011, 1:09 AM
Hi Everyone,
I have two rescue Great Pyrenees that are roughly 4 1/2 and 3 years old. My
stepson is moving in with us at the end of July and bringing his 8 month old
Boxer to live with us as well. I have been reading up on Boxers but am curious
to hear if any of you have much bigger dogs that you have introduced a new Boxer
to? We are hoping the ex-wife will get the dog altered before he comes here next
month but it doesn't sound promising so he may be coming to us intact. He is
about 45 pounds now and my two are 70 (female) and 95 (male) respectively (small
for Pyrs).
We will have them meet on neutral ground for a walk together to see how things
go and then bring them all home. He's still a puppy so I'm hoping that my two
(Riley and Willow) will be accepting of their new pack member. They generally
like other dogs and want to play with them but I belong to a Pyr chat group and
I hear tales of two males sometimes fighting for position in the pack. My female
is definitely the alpha in charge (behind me!) so it should be interesting to
see how this goes. I'm really just hoping to avoid fights and never having had
three dogs at one time don't know what to expect. Thanks in advance for your
thoughts.
Tammy in TN
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