If the LGD have animals to care for (ie, their own flock) they will behave diffently from pets which is probably why you had problems, Annette.
And you didn't ask, but it is a very bad idea to cross different breeds of LGD with each other. You end up with a lot of problems, including vicious dogs. And no one wants vicious LGD. Believe me.
Regards
Jane Logan
From: boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Annette Hake
Sent: Thursday, 30 June 2011 1:29 AM
To: boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [boxer lovers] New Member getting a boxer- need your thoughts
WOW!!! Tammy.... you are asking for advise so here it is.....
I had a similar situation... I have a female Great Pyrenees and an male Antolian Shepherd out in the goat pen with the goats.... at the time there were no goats in the pen with them because we had sold them....and the LGDs were in one of the pens...
I bought a male Boxer to breed with my female boxer but he was use to being outside so I put him in the pen (formally for goats) next to the two LGDS...everything was fine for a while and then one day... OUT OF NOWHERE... the two Pyrenees and the Boxer were going at each other through the fence gate..between the two pens..... I was really worried that it was a "to the death fight" and probably would have been if they had been in the same area....I could not call them off..The female was spayed but the two males were intact...not sure if that was the problem or
not...but the female LGD was just as ready to fight as the male LGD and the Boxer was ready to take them both on...it was scary...so I got the boxer out of that pen and put him on a run in the front yard and all is fine now...they can see each other at times but it is not like they are within fighting distance of each other...and I am transitioning the male boxer to being in the house with my two female boxers...
The boxer ( Marcus) was 8 mo. old when I brought him home... My LSDs are Male- 92 lbs and female similar weight...Boxer is about 72 lbs now at 4 years old .. not sure what he was at 8 mo. I am guessing about 50 lbs...
Even though that I brought Marcus into the LGDs territory ......they had had run of both pens when we had the goats....the pens are big ...lots of space to get away from each other...
I did not expect that to happen because it seemed like they were getting along fine for several months...then one day....apparently one challenged the other and that
was that...I could not get them anywhere close to each other again...they did not forget the death threats to each other...
Bringing them into your home may not be a good idea...IMO
History behind the LGDs:P
We got two brother LGDs (Anatolian Shepherds) to start with and a year later got 2 Great Pyrenees sisters to breed with the males...at that time of this situation, we only had one male and one female LGD... but when the brothers were growing up together they were together in the pen and all was good...they guarded the live stock together and played together but once we separated them and gave them each a female...they never were able to be in adjacent pens again because they wanted to fight each other...and were very protective of their goats and their females...
You have a male and female and the male will probably want to protect your female from the incoming strange male...that may have been
what happened here too...unless him being a puppy will make a difference...not sure but it is not a good idea in my experience...Both LGDs are very loving to us and obedient but when they got in the fight mode.. They would not call off and neither would the boxer...I had to pull him away from the gate with a leash and it was hard to get him away from there... I can't imagine what it would have been if they were all in the same space together.
LGDs and boxers are both territorial dogs and protectors of what they deam as theirs...so you may be asking for more than you can handle bringing the boxer into that situation...
At first the Boxer will probably be out of his territory so he will be less likely to want to fight.. but as he gets comfortable with his surrounding he may try to make a move towards the female or challenge the bigger dogs and that could get ugly...I think that is what happened with mine...
I would not do it but you have to decide that for yourself ...
Sorry may not be what you wanted to hear but could avoid a dangerous situation in your home....
Annette
Marcus, Maggie and BooSahrah and Meloch
Alan and Annette Hake
and the animals we love,
on Menookhaw Mountain
Ravenden, Arkansas
--- On Wed, 6/29/11, tammylzurak <tammylzurak@yahoo.com <mailto:tammylzurak%40yahoo.com> > wrote:
From: tammylzurak <tammylzurak@yahoo.com <mailto:tammylzurak%40yahoo.com> >
Subject: [boxer lovers] New Member getting a boxer- need your thoughts
To: boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:boxerlovers%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 29, 2011, 1:09 AM
Hi Everyone,
I have two rescue Great Pyrenees that are roughly 4 1/2 and 3 years old. My stepson is moving in with us at the end of July and bringing his 8 month old Boxer to live with us as well. I have been reading up on Boxers but am curious to hear if any of you have much bigger dogs that you have introduced a new Boxer to? We are hoping the ex-wife will get the dog altered before he comes here next month but it doesn't sound promising so he may be coming to us intact. He is about 45 pounds now and my two are 70 (female) and 95 (male) respectively (small for Pyrs).
We will have them meet on neutral ground for a walk together to see how things go and then bring them all home. He's still a puppy so I'm hoping that my two (Riley and Willow) will be accepting of their new pack member. They generally like other dogs and want to play with them but I belong to a Pyr chat group and I hear tales of two males sometimes fighting for position in the pack. My female is definitely the alpha in charge (behind me!) so it should be interesting to see how this goes. I'm really just hoping to avoid fights and never having had three dogs at one time don't know what to expect. Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
Tammy in TN
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