Animal And Company: Re: [boxer lovers] puppies

Karon,

There is no need for an apology. I understand and appreciate everything you said. Any information is always an asset. If nothing else it helps to refresh my memory whuich at times I admit gets a bit foggy! LOL If I sounded harsh it is me who should apologize.

Wanda
----- Original Message -----
From: karon
To: boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 9:39 AM
Subject: RE: [boxer lovers] puppies

Didn't mean to imply anything, just trying to offer as much info as
possible. Yes, there are some problems in some lines. But, most show
breeders are trying to breed well. which, of course, is where all of our
education comes in. This is info I always offer to people who ask about
puppies. Mostly because we don't know what the information level is when
they first appear. I was simply trying to offer an answer that would help a
newbie.

I am sorry if you already had this info and it was unhelpful or unwelcome.

Karon Adams

Accredited Jewelry Professional (GIA)

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From: boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Wanda
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 12:42 AM
To: boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [boxer lovers] puppies

HI Karon and there was another lady that replied to my post about looking
for a puppy. I am looking for a puppy for my daughter and her family.
Personally in my lifetime I have had 20 boxers so I am well aware of what to
look for in a boxer. My daughter grew up with boxers and has had several of
her own. She is also a veterinarian. I always appreciate any info I can get
about boxers because I am so in love with the breed. Every one that I have
had has been wonderful although truthfully we have also encountered several
health problems and believe it or not the biggest health problems came from
top of the line show stock. Of course we always look for the puppy that
comes with the best health record because as you said you can never be 100%
positive that the puppy is not going to come down with some unforseen
problem. I will pass on all the information to my daughter and she can
decide what she wants to do.

Wanda
----- Original Message -----
From: karon
To: boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:boxerlovers%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 6:01 PM
Subject: RE: [boxer lovers] puppies

If you are looking for a puppy and plan to purchase, please go through the
ABC and make certain you are purchasing from a reputable breeder. While I do
endorse rescues, sometimes, with children, that is not the best choice. If
thinking about a puppy, go to the ABC website and fill out the puppy
application form. Member breeders with pups on the ground or who are
planning a breeding or pregnant, will receive your application and you'll
find that several will contact you. that is a good thing.

When you heard from the breeders, many will have already checked your
references. THAT is a good thing. Several breeders who contacted me had even
called my vet to check my record caring for animals I already had. I was
very pleased with that. The questions you need to ask, besides information
on the pedigree, are what health tests have been done and can you be sent
copies of the health reports. The breeders WANT you to ask these questions.
It shows you are being responsible.

Spend some time on the ABC page (American Boxer Club) and learn what the
issues are with Boxers so you can ask good questions and be comfortable with
the answers. Even if I was considering a pet puppy, I would still prefer a
breeding from show stock. The reason is, and many people don't know this,
but dog shows are not beauty pageants, though looks are important. The point
of dog shows is to evaluate breeding stock. If your breeder is breeding
from dogs proven in the ring and bringing good health to the table, you will
likely have a good chance t a well tempered, healthy pup.

That being said, there are NEVER guarantees. Even the best breeding can
through pups with problems. It happens. But, your chances are much better if
you start with good stock. Almost all litters are mostly going to be pets.
In a great breeding, often there are some pups who will go on to the ring
and some who, still wonderful dogs, are just a little bit missing the mark.
These are the pet dogs and that is wonderful. Your breeder will probably
sell that pup with a spay or neuter requirement.

Most will insist they co-own the pup until you send them the vet statement
that the surgery was performed. Again, this is a responsible breeder. Not
all do that but many ethical breeders do so. the purpose is to make certain
that their pet pups, excellent dogs and certainly a serious cut above the
average backyard dog, is never introduced to the breeding stream. The reason
they are not going into the ring is because they probably are not quite the
best choice for breeding.

If you choose a white pup, be certain you are aware what challenges that
presents. Some are perfectly ordinary dogs other than color. However, the
color does mean they are likely, more sensitive to sun. yes, white boxer can
sunburn<G> There are also, many deaf pups in the whites. A deaf pup is a
little more of a challenge but, remember, a LOT of the training you do with
your dog is through body language and physical signals, anyway. And a deaf
pup tends to be pretty easy to train simply because they pay closer
attention to you than a hearing pup who is distracted by sound. My mother
adopted a deaf white several years ago. When she heard about him, she didn't
think she could manage it. I told her it would not be as difficult as she
thought it was. She LOVES her Deaf boxer and if you didn't know he was deaf,
you could not tell. He is a joy. She has already said if she is up to
adopting, again, she will give preference to a deaf boxer.

I know this is a lot of information and I apologize for that. but, bringing
a pup into the family is a big deal and a long term commitment. Having spent
a little time in the show world and a moderate amount of time in rescue, I
am very passionate about responsible breeding. I want to support responsible
breeders and educate potential new puppy owners what they need to know to
buy or adopt in the most responsible manner and end up with a happy addition
to the family. The last thing I ever want to see is a pup that ends up back
in rescue. I really feel the best way to avoid that is to make good
decisions at this point.

Good luck! I hope this is helpful and not too overwhelming. Please let us
know how the process goes. There are always people here to help.

Karon Adams

Accredited Jewelry Professional (GIA)

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From: boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:boxerlovers%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:boxerlovers%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On
Behalf Of Renee & Rick
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 5:10 PM
To: boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:boxerlovers%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [boxer lovers] puppies

Wanda,

Try a rescue I know Adopt a Boxer has puppies from time to time and some of
the others have puppies now. Please try to save a life not continue the
cycle of puppy mills and backyard breeders. That's how I got my youngest and
he's now 2 but he was only 12 weeks when we got him through rescue.

Renee

----- Original Message -----
From: Wanda
To: boxerlovers
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 2:22 AM
Subject: [boxer lovers] puppies

My daughter is looking for a puppy. Is there anyone in the group that knows
of any puppies now or in the near future. It will not be for show just a
pet. Preferably we would like to find a puppy in the Western Pensylvania
area or in Virginia. Thanks.

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