I had a puppy with liver shunts 9 years ago. Reputable show breeder, very good friend of a friend. White female boxer puppy, both parents were champions. She started having neurological signs aside from her being 14 lbs at 4 months old. The surgery was a 50% chance of success at the time. We decided to put her down. Like your boxer, my vet said it normally occurs in small breeds and had not seen it in boxers before.
Shannon in NC
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On Jan 4, 2013, at 8:56 PM, "Rachel Osborn, GO Boxer Rescue" boxers@ameritech.net> wrote:
> This is for sure one I'd never heard of, on any of the lists, at
> least that I can recall, in my own Boxers, or any of the 1000's of
> rescues that have come through GOBR over the many years. If anyone
> has any experience with this PLEASE let me know about it, your
> treatment, diet and so on as well as prognosis.
>
> Bogie started not wanting to eat much and was loosing weight a couple
> months back. We were testing and at first nothing was showing up. We
> switched flavors of food and did get him to start eating, but he
> continued to loose weight, no matter how much we supplemented with
> goodies and so on.
>
> Blood chemistry showed EXTREMELY high liver enzyme levels a little
> over a month ago. We went to get an ultrasound. Liver was "slightly
> small for a dog his size", gall bladder was normal, but gall duct
> looked "inflamed". Two weeks later, this was after he was eating good
> again on new flavor of same food with extras added in, he had lost
> another 2 lbs and his liver enzymes had come down dramatically,
> however were still really high. There was discussion of doing a liver
> biopsy, but since the enzymes had "improved" was decided to wait and
> retest them 2 weeks later. Well, the liver enzymes went SKY HIGH
> again and he had lost another 4 lbs. So, an appointment was made with
> the Internist to get the biopsy done.
>
> Wednesday we went for the biopsy of his liver. When the Internist and
> Oncologist did the ultrasound this time, his liver was very, very
> small. They were afraid to do a biopsy, scared with it being so small
> and hiding behind the spleen, they'd wind up hitting it instead. So
> it was decided to do an angiogram (a splenoportogram) where they put
> the contrast in the spleen. Two liver shunts were seen clearly on
> this, one large and extending to near his right kidney. The other
> smaller and just going out to nowhere per se.
>
> It has been explained that this normally happens in smaller breeds.
> While it can be an inherited tendency or an acquired one, it is
> brought on by copper toxicity from ingestion. It is AMAZING how much
> copper, and other metals are in dog food. Supposedly the "designer
> foods" are worse than the regular kibbles, and raw feeding has the
> most. That's because cooking helps to take out a lot of the
> minerals/metals in the blood/meat.
>
> Why Bogie has this, nobody can explain it since he does not eat raw,
> has not been killing and eating any animals in the yard or anything.
> He doesn't run the woods and fields to be able to do this without our
> knowledge either.
>
> Our vet didn't have any LD in stock, but ordered it for us and we'll
> be picking it up in the morning. He is to have NO meat at all, no
> meat byproducts, nothing like that. He is to have the LD (similar to
> KD for kidney diets) mixed with human things such as macaroni and
> cheese, cottage cheese, rice, noodles, cream of wheat, eggs, and some
> milk, though too much milk would probably cause diarrhea.
>
> In all our baby boy who just turned 4 on 22 December, has lost 14
> pounds. Even after he was eating good, as much as he would eat, he
> kept loosing weight. He is now on a high carb diet with no meat
> protein at all, just dairy protein, and is to be allowed to eat as
> much as we can get him to eat in hopes that his liver will start
> repairing itself and that he'll gain weight.
>
> It HURTS so much to look at his bony body, with tons of muscle still
> obvious from his former self.
>
> Again, if you, or anyone you know, has any experience with this,
> please pass on to others who may, and please respond with any
> experiences and helpful advice. Keep this sweet boy in your thoughts
> and prayers please.
>
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