A genetic disorder can appear at any point in any generation. Being of a
pure bloodline does not mean there CAN BE no genetic defect, it just means
one has not shown up. That is why EVERY dog that is bred should be tested
for genetic defects BEFORE breeding. if a dog tests positive for any genetic
defect, it should be spayed or neutered, whether the defect is visible or
not. My Tovi is of pure lines and champion stock, yet, after all the testing
in her line, she still developed epilepsy. For that reason, she was spayed.
We don't know what caused her epilepsy so we don't take ANY chances and we
don't breed her.
Despite her beautiful parentage and her own beautiful conformation, she has
a defect which MAY BE genetic and COULD be passed on to her young and
theirs. For that reason, I made the responsible choice not to breed her and
had her spayed.
That is what responsible owners do when they know there is a problem, defect
or inheritable illness in their animal.
Karon Adams
Accredited Jewelry Professional (GIA)
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From: boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of EagleWindSong
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 2:51 PM
To: boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [boxer lovers] Hi all!
Karon,
I am not being smart alect here, I am seriously wondering...is there a why
to know you don't have any genetic defect SOMEWHERE down the line that could
reappear in one of your puppies? I mean is there a limit of generations
without any defects that would be considered a a pure line... or can a
defect show up from as many as ...say ... 10 generations back? I use to
believe from something I read that after 7 generations of pure bred dogs the
line was pure...but that does not mean the genetic genes are not able to
show up anymore...does it?
Annette
--- In boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:boxerlovers%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"karon" <karon@...> wrote:
>
> These days, Reverse Brindle is used to refer to a dog that has such dense
> brindling that they look like they are black with fawn stripes rather than
> fawn with black stripes. But, the standard REQUIRES that there be at least
> one stripe of fawn on the dog or it is an automatic DQ.
>
> Reverse Brindle is not really an accepted description in the breed
standard,
> it is just a shorthand way to describe a boxer that has such heavy
brindling
> as to appear black with a little bit of fawn.
>
> One that has too much white, over 1/3 of the coat, as Lisa points out, is
> called a Check but in common parlance, is called a White Boxer. Bred,
sadly,
> by unethical breeders, they are often marketed as "Rare White Boxers" and
> uneducated buyers think they are buying an unusual and semi unique type of
> acceptable Boxer. They are buying an unusual type of dog but, they usually
> do not know the problems that come with White boxers such as the tendency
to
> deafness. Deafness does not appear in all white boxers but is possible in
> all of them and when you intentionally breed two of them together, even if
> your parent dogs are not deaf, you run the serious risk of producing deaf
> dogs in that litter or successive ones.
>
> That is why a Check or a white boxer is considered out of Standard and is
an
> automatic DQ. It is also why they should NEVER be bred, like other genetic
> defects, visible or not.
>
> Karon Adams
> Accredited Jewelry Professional (GIA)
> You can send a free Rosary to a soldier!
> www.facebook.com/MilitaryRosary
> www.YellowRibbonRosaries.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:boxerlovers%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:boxerlovers%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On
> > Behalf Of Lisa Wiser
> > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 4:04 PM
> > To: Boxer Lovers Yahoo Group
> > Subject: Re: [boxer lovers] Hi all!
> >
> > Many black colors in strong sunlight will have a blue sheen ... Look at
a
> human with
> > black hair.
> >
> >
> >
> > Back when I was showing "Reversed Brindle" wasn't used. I believe that
> term
> > developed because of the number of boxers so deeply brindled they looked
> black and
> > were many times highly flashy ... And that combo technically made them
> "out of
> > standard" which was the flash not only had to be attractive but NO MORE
> THAN
> > ONE THIRD OF THE GROUND COLOR. That meant, with very little fawn showing
> > through as "ground color", a brindle with minimal flash would be "more
> than one
> > third."
> >
> >
> >
> > But the blue you mention is not the merle of the "blue boxer" ... if
your
> dog was a
> > "blue" first it would not have been registered with the AKC or UKC and
> second would
> > have been more bluish gray -- gun metal gray -- than black.
> >
> >
> >
> > To show "confirmation" a dog needs to be registered with the authorizing
> kennel club
> > ... Except for possible fun shows.
> >
> >
> >
> > Obedience, agility, etc, are considered "Performance" and still the dog
> must be
> > registered with the authorizing kennel club but may be "out of standard"
> or neutered
> > and still do performance.
> >
> >
> >
> > Did you know AKC & ABC are starting to support herding classes for
boxers?
> >
> >
> >
> > LisaW
> >
> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From: "Sue Salata" <sue@...>
> >
> > Sender: boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:boxerlovers%40yahoogroups.com>
> >
> > Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 12:59:09
> >
> > To: <boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:boxerlovers%40yahoogroups.com>
>
> >
> > Reply-To: boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:boxerlovers%40yahoogroups.com>
> >
> > Subject: Re: [boxer lovers] Hi all!
> >
> >
> >
> > When we lived in CO back in the 70's right before the AKC and the ABC
> accepted
> > revered brindles, we bought a puppy bitch the was almost black and when
> the sun shown
> > on her she had a blue coloring to her. She won some show but we never
> used her for
> > breeding, she had a bad mouth.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sue
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original message-----
> >
> > From: "Lisa Wiser" lawiser@...
> >
> > Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 05:37:39 -0400
> >
> > To: "Boxer Lovers Yahoo Group" boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:boxerlovers%40yahoogroups.com>
> >
> > Subject: Re: [boxer lovers] Hi all!
> >
> >
> >
> > > Sue ...
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > They are blue. Not a permitted color under AKC / UKC / ABC rules.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > LisaW
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > >
> >
> > > From: "Sue Salata" <sue@...>
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Sender: boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:boxerlovers%40yahoogroups.com>
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 21:44:52
> >
> > >
> >
> > > To: <boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:boxerlovers%40yahoogroups.com> >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Reply-To: boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:boxerlovers%40yahoogroups.com>
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Subject: Re: [boxer lovers] Hi all!
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Puppies oh my goodness. Any show prospects ?
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Sue Salata
> >
> > >
> >
> > > AZ Boxer Club Member
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Surprise, AZ
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > -----Original message-----
> >
> > >
> >
> > > From: Annette Hake annettehake@...
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 13:29:47 -0400
> >
> > >
> >
> > > To: "boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:boxerlovers%40yahoogroups.com> " boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:boxerlovers%40yahoogroups.com>
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Subject: Re: [boxer lovers] Hi all!
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > HI Gina... great to have you aboard!
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > I have three boxers and a litter of pups right now...but the three
> always get either a
> > thigh or leg of steamed chicken in the evenings around 5:00p.m. and if I
> forget... they are
> > quick to remind me...especially Maggie...she is the spokeswoman for the
> group... LOL
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > I buy a 10 lb. bag of hindquarters and cook it in a dutch oven pan
on
> the stove
> > slowly.. then once cooled and drained of the broth I can put it in the
> fridge and give
> > them each a peice of chicken from that pan... With only one dog you
would
> want to
> > maybe only cook fewer amount of it at a time..so it stays fresh for him
to
> eat...
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > I find that many times after they eat their chicken it wets their
> appetite and they will
> > go eat their kibble also..
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > I put 4 cups a piece for them in their place in the kitchen and
> through the day they
> > usually eat it all..
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > We do give them tid bits of what we are eating but I fix
> very nutritious food for us
> > ...cook with olive oil, use organic veggies, chicken, turkey and
fish...no
> fried foods...or
> > highly seasoned foods...so they can have most any of what we eat without
> any fear of it
> > upsetting them...I steam their chicken without any seasoning in
it...they
> love it...
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > I said that because most people eat foods that would be hard on
their
> dogs..so that
> > would limit what they could give them from their plates.. lol
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > Boo loves Apples that are pealed...bananas sometimes,strawberries,
> eggs, sweet
> > potatoes, cooked broccoli, carrots, bread or crackers with smart balance
> butter
> > spread...peanut butter, anything sweet..which we limit...plain yogurt,
> cottage
> > cheese,...etc...Marcus and Boo will eat most anything but Maggie is
> picky.. if she does
> > not like it she will sniff...and turn her nose up and walk away...
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > I have read and heard a lot of controversy on giving onions and
> garlic...some
> > say definitely not and others say it is good for them... I would not
give
> raw of either but I
> > have given them some of our meats cooked with onions and garlic in
> it...and they did
> > not seem to have any ill effects.. but I limit it and if in doubt it is
> best not to give it to
> > them.. :O)
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > Almonds is one thing I learned here that is a killer for dogs...and
> another thing
> > many don't know is that Xyitol...a sugar substitute in foods..( not
sure
> of the spelling)
> > that is used in some sugar free gums, and many other things is also a
> killer to dogs even
> > though it is fine for people..
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > There are many good things that dogs can eat...but I found if you
give
> them too
> > much they will not eat their dog food so we just give a little bit here
> and there and it
> > does not interfere with the regular food..
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > All three sit beside the table with the killer look that seems to
> say... "please mom,
> > we haven't eaten in at least a week maybe more" LOL Maggie and Marcus
> will just
> > wait until they think we are not going to give them anything or I tell
> them no more...but
> > Boo is not quite as patient...if she sits there giving us that look for
a
> little bit with not
> > response from us.. she give us a little nudge with UMMMM ....wait....
> UMMMM
> > ...wait...UMMMM it is cute and I don't mind cause if I want them to
stop
> or go away
> > they will when I tell them to... lol
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > Hope that helps...enjoy you little guy... :O)
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > Annette,
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > Marcus, Maggie and Boo
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > Alan and Annette Hake
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > and the animals we love,
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > on Menookhaw Mountain
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > Ravenden, Arkansas
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > ________________________________
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > From: gmetta2289 <gmetta216@...>
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > To: boxerlovers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:boxerlovers%40yahoogroups.com>
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 7:15 PM
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > Subject: [boxer lovers] Hi all!
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > Hi all,
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > My name is Gina M. and I was so excited to find this group and to
know
> how much
> > other people love their boxers! I have a boxer named Tyson, and hes
about
> a year and
> > four months. I was wondering if any of you give your boxers any table
> food? I know that
> > foods such as grapes, chocolate, raisins, etc are bad for them so I stay
> away. I do
> > sometimes give him chicken or eggs. Do you think this is ok?
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > -Gina :)
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
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> >
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> >
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